Atheist Richard Dawkins has said he doesn’t believe one word of the Christian faith, but he now considers himself a “cultural Christian” and wants to defend the Christian values of his country against the influence of Islam and immigrants. Does this represent an alignment between the New Atheists and Christian Nationalists? Curtis Chang shares about “The After Party”—the new curriculum he’s developed with David French and Russel Moore to help Christians focus on hope and humility rather than partisanship. Also this week, Mark Driscoll gets booted from a men’s conference. And another infraction by a Florida man with a Bible.
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0:00 - Intro
1:02 - Show Starts
3:02 - Theme Song
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4:35 - Florida Man Scales Tower with Bible
12:00 - Mark Driscoll Kicked Off Stage After Calling Sword-Swallower a “Jezebel Spirit”
22:35 - Richard Dawkins, the “Cultural Christian”
36:40 - Dusty Deavers, the Country Singin’ Senator
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52:55 - Interview
1:04:34 - The “What” vs the “How”
1:16:26 - Four Quadrant of Political Engagement
1:27:19 - End Credits
Links Mentioned in the News Segment:
Florida Man Climbs Cell Phone Tower
Sword-Swallower on a Pole and Mark Driscoll
Richard Dawkins and Cultural Christianity
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At about 26 minutes in, Kaitlyn says we that we should recognize that values such as the inherent dignity of all humans doesn't come from nowhere, it comes from Christianity. I think those values predate Christianity - they are inherent in the ten commandments and it wouldn't surprise me if they show up in earlier religions.
Also, here's an interview with Thich Nhat Hanh in which he speaks of Buddhist practices of love of oneself and extending that to love of one's community and help others. That sounds a lot like respecting human dignity and loving one's neighbor to me. (https://www.lionsroar.com/this-is-the-buddhas-love/)
I'm an atheist, one with empathy and one who works hard to help people others in need. I see…
I told my husband about the turducken analogy. He said there's so much wrong with this whole event that it should make it painfully obvious that we've lost the plot (hence the chicken inside the duck inside the turkey inside the ostrich 😅).
He compared it to "jumping the shark". Dr.Google says "jump the shark" is a term that is used to argue that a creative work or entity has reached a point in which it has exhausted its core intent and is introducing new ideas that are discordant with, or an extreme exaggeration of, its original purpose.
Maybe that's why there are so many wild things at conferences and youth events. Definitely things that are "discordant with their original…
I haven’t gotten all the way through the Dawkins part of the discussion, but I do note that the common ground that Dawkins and Christian nationalists have is hating Muslims (or even xenophobia) and I find that tragic and vile. I hope something will be said about this further along in the podcast than I am currently… I would rather have a kind Muslim family as next-door neighbors than either Christian nationalists or someone like Dawkins any day of the week.
I don’t think Driscoll switching out “the Jezebel spirit” for something about Sodom and Gomorrah would have been a step up. We’ve already got enough homophobia without adding more, even if it’s to replace misogyny.
Where to start...
Dawkins segment - I understand where Skye and Kaitlyn are coming from. They ascribe the origin of moral behavior in a flourishing human society to humans being made in the image of God. That's great!
However, the same results can be achieved through: early and frequent exposure to community, shared lived experiences, building of trust through peer relationships and parental leadership, and honing of confidence through active participation in social and competitive activities.
Just because the Bible identifies and describes truths, such as aspects of healthy societal development, does not mean God is the cause of them or that everything in the Bible is true. You could say the same things about most other literature.
We know…