A Christian campaign spent $20 million on two ads during the Super Bowl, but the “He Gets Us” commercials are facing criticism from both the right and left. One side says the ads did not present the gospel. The other says the campaign’s funders are bigots. And everyone is wondering if the $20 million could have been spent more effectively. Phil, Skye, and Kaitlyn offer their takes. Then, Tim Keller has a new article with his prescription for how Christianity can thrive again in America, but does it all come down to overcoming political idolatry? And a new report from PRRI looks at the sobering data about Christian Nationalism. One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it, and the majority of them are white evangelicals. Historian Kristin Kobes Du Mez is back to discuss the data and explain the link between Christian Nationalism, patriarchy, and authoritarianism. Plus, a candy factory is sued after workers fall into a chocolate vat.
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0:00 - Intro
3:55 - Workers in a vat of chocolate
6:30 - He gets us
28:46 - American Christianity
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57:37 - Interview Intro
59:00 - Kristin Kobes Du Mez
1:11:48 - Christian Nationalism and patriarchy
1:29:15 - Demographics
1:32:36 - End Credits
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Mars Wrigley fined after two workers fell into a tank of chocolate - https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/13/business/mars-wrigley-chocolate-vat-fine/index.html
He Gets Us - https://hegetsus.com
American Christianity is due for a revival by Timothy Keller - https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/02/christianity-secularization-america-renewal-modernity/672948/
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Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Kobes Du Mez - https://amzn.to/3xlmodt
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A Christian Nation? Understanding the Threat of Christian Nationalism to American Democracy and Culture - https://www.prri.org/research/a-christian-nation-understanding-the-threat-of-christian-nationalism-to-american-democracy-and-culture/
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It is simply not true to say that "One-third of Americans are either committed Christian Nationalists or very sympathetic to it." (29% does not equal 33%). Using that math it would be just as easy to say that three-quarters of Americans are either very skeptical or reject Christian Nationalism all together, which makes this much ado about nothing.
You're way too hard on the Jesus gets me commercials. You need to interview the creators. If God can speak though an ass...
Can Skye please explain what he is meaning when he says “House Church” and what that looks like? De-platforming the message I believe he said. It sounds self explanatory, but I’d very much like to hear what that looks like. My heart and mind has been moving that direction for several months now, where I find myself disagreeing with the way church has always been done. My ideal church would be families meeting in someone’s home, sharing a meal, praying over our children and families, and having community.
Speaking as someone who *is* in regular relationship with people who are at least sympathetic toward Christian Nationalism, as well as those who shun the thought, the quest to find any common ground is important, but such commonalities seem discouragingly small compared to how large the differences loom for everyone. For one thing, the Nationalists want the nation parked on some idealized (for them) space where the enforcement of the selected morals they deem important is more important even than democracy. And their opponents don't see any such "idealized space" of either past or present, but are fighting instead for an orientation that carries us away from past and utterly corrupt practices ... wanting to carry us to ... a…
While Tim Keller's first response of dealing with political idolatry is important, it is not close to sufficient to heal any of the 5 ills. When I was growing up in the church in the 60's and 70's we kept politics at arm's length from our faith and had not started down the road of political idolatry. But this did not help us have any greater concern for social justice than we see today, and probably less (for example). Repenting of idolatry is crucial, but it has to be replaced with a real relationship or new idols will come to replace it.